Inter-company transactions

Hi, 

My boss has multiple companies.  

Company A often purchases office supplies for company B.

I thought I had the journal entries figured out like this:

Company A

1st GJ entry:

5700 o/s                     Dr. 549.44

2315 GST Paid         Dr. 27.47

           1065 Bank                             Cr. 576.91

2nd GJ entry:

3104  inter-co: B      Dr. 576.91

5700 o/s                                          Cr. 549.44

2315 GST Paid                              Cr. 27.47

Company B

1st entry:

5700 o/s               Dr. 549.44

2315 GST Paid   Dr. 27.47

2234 inter-co: A                           Cr. 576.91

I have 2 questions.

1 - wouldn't I need to have an additional GJ entry for each company when company B pays company A?

Company A        1065 Bank      Dr. 576.91       3104 inter-co: B         Cr. 576.91

Company B        2234 inter-co: A   Dr. 576.91            1010 Bank     Cr. 576.91

2 - I am not sure where the initial payment was made from.  It may have been included in another transaction.

    I cannot see this specific amount coming out of the Bank in company A.    

    I do see where the payment from company B comes into company A's bank.

    Now what do I for my GJ entries???

Thank you so much!

  • 0

    if company A buys office supplies for both companies on the same bill
    say 100$ for company A, and 200$ for company B

    company A GJ
    db 100.00  5700 os        (not required if supplies only bought for company B)
    db   5.00  2315 gst paid  (not required if supplies only bought for company B)
    db 210.00  3104 interco B (would be the full amount, if supplies only bought for company B)
    cr 315.00  1065 bank

    company B GJ
    db 200.00  5700 os    
    db  10.00  2315 gst paid
    cr 210.00  2234 interco A

    now company B owes company A, 210.00
    ====================================
    company B GJ
    db 210.00  2234 interco A
    cr 210.00  1010 bank

    and company A records the payment
    =================================
    company A GJ
    db 210.00  1065 bank
    cr 210.00  3104 interco B

    ============================
    as to your second point
      I am not sure where the initial payment was made from.  It may have been included in another transaction.
      I cannot see this specific amount coming out of the Bank in company A.    
      I do see where the payment from company B comes into company A's bank.

    what was the method of payment when the supplies were purchased ?
    bank debit card ? cash ? cheque ? credit card ?

    if the payment is c/c, the first GJ would be
    company A GJ
    db 100.00  5700 os        (not required if supplies only bought for company B)
    db   5.00  2315 gst paid  (not required if supplies only bought for company B)
    db 210.00  3104 interco B (would be the full amount, if supplies only bought for company B)
    cr 315.00  2xxx credit card payable

  • 0 in reply to Roger L

    Roger L said:
    now company B owes company B, 210.00

    Sorry to be picky but Roger, did you mean

    now company B owes company A, 210.00?

  • 0 in reply to Richard S. Ridings
    yes, good catch - I've updated the post - thanks
  • 0

    The exact journal entry would depend on whether the companies are related and have prepared a (GST25?).  If so there's no GST on intercompany transactions:

    2nd GJ entry:

    3104  inter-co: B Dr. 576.91 549.44

    5700 o/s                                          Cr. 549.44

    2315 GST Paid                              Cr. 27.47

    Or if the entire purchase invoice is for Company B's purchase:

    1st GJ entry:

    5700 o/s   3104 Co B    Dr. 549.44

    2315 GST Paid         Dr. 27.47

               1065 Bank                             Cr. 576.91

    Otherwise, you've purchased office supplies as their agent, that they'll enter on their books.  Company A entry is just cash out and intercompany.

    Company A

    1st GJ entry:

    5700 o/s                     Dr. 549.44

    2315 GST Paid         Dr. 27.47

              1065 Bank                             Cr. 576.91

    2nd GJ entry:

    3104  inter-co: B      Dr. 576.91

    5700 o/s                                          Cr. 549.44

    2315 GST Paid                              Cr. 27.47

    You could set up a liked item code for inter-company office supplies to use in payable invoices, or use a recurring transaction in the G/L,

    Whether you keep track of the inter-company transactions using the Accounts Payable system or just journal entries, it will help if you have your inter-company accounts reconcilable.

  • 0 in reply to RandyW
    OK. So I found out that the boss used his personal credit card to purchase office supplies for both companies, and I found the payment that was made to him.
    I have never heard of a GST25. I don't think we have one.

    I am struggling with how to input this information. I had someone teach, or start to teach me to do Journal entries. Though I am more comfortable with Invoices. Now I am thoroughly confused!
    I try to make invoices, but am not sure the exact accounts the invoice will use when doing all of the "background" information. Will the payment be applied to those same accounts reconciling them if I make the payment in the invoice instead of recording the payment separately? (I do my bank reconciliation manually in excel.)
    Should I do this inter-company in GJ?
    Or should I use the inter-company accounts in the invoices, but then how do I credit the inter-company account without hitting the bank?
    OR, could I do it with vendor and customer invoices? If I don't use inter-company accounts, would company A record the purchase as an expense such as "5302 Company B expense account"? What if the entire purchase was for company B, would I still use the Company B expense account in company A, even though it wasn't their expense?

    I keep trying to do make an invoice, but it isn't making sense in my head because I am trying to do it like a GJ.
    Because the boss used his personal credit card, can I still use him in a vendor invoice, or do I have to use a SHL account?

    Can I do it like this:
    Company A
    Vendor invoice (to Boss) paid by CHQ
    GST 5.00 100.00 5700 office supplies
    GST 5.00 100.00 5302 company B expense

    Sales invoice to Company B rec. CHQ
    GST 5.00 100.00 5302 company B expense

    Company B
    Vendor invoice for Company A paid by CHQ
    GST 5.00 100.00 5700 office supplies

    Thank you so much!
  • 0 in reply to mirasong

    mirasong said:
    the boss used his personal credit card to purchase office supplies for both companies, and I found the payment that was made to him.

    If you are paying any part of the Boss' credit card from the company, set it up as a credit card that your company uses, record invoices and payments the same way you would if you had an actual separate company credit card.

    Even though you won't be paying *all* the amounts on that card, you could set up reconciliation.

    A GST25 is often filled out to simplify inter-company transactions - the gist is that in some situations where one entity owns multiple companies, or one company owns the other, they don't pay / charge each other GST.  You don't have to give a copy to the CRA, but you do have to fill it out and keep it on file.

    First get the 'outside' vendor transaction recorded properly, then work on getting the amounts transferred around between the companies.  

  • 0 in reply to RandyW
    Hi RandyW,

    I created the Boss's Credit Card account, 2128, in Company A.

    COMPANY A
    I made a supplier invoice to the vendor named boss's credit card, using the credit card payment method. I used the office supply expense acct, and the Company B expense acct.
    I then made a payment to the credit card company.

    Next, I made a customer invoice to Company B, but instead of using a revenue account, I used the Company B expense account. (This balances the Company B expense account back to 0.00) Receiving payment at the same time.

    COMPANY B
    In Company B I made a purchase invoice to Company A using the office supply exp account.

    Is this correct?